Judy Tuwalestiwa & Caleb Sohigian
Exploring themes of myth, magic and the human condition our next guests, artists, Judy Tuwaletstiwa and Caleb Sohigian, reveal their deep connection and mutual respect through their intergenerational exchange of wisdom and creativity. Learn how their poignant collaboration turned Gma Judy into a TickTock sensation.
In this episode, we step into the Santa Fe studio of renowned artist Judy Tuwaletstiwa for a captivating conversation about the "radical intimacy" of intergenerational collaboration. Joined by her grandson Caleb, a performer and editor, Judy explores how they have bridged a 50-year age gap to create Frog Dreaming, a modern myth for our times. The duo reveals the secret behind their viral TikTok success—where Caleb’s background in card magic and Judy’s profound artistic wisdom have combined to create a "digital sanctuary" for millions. From discussing the "dream life of objects" to the power of a child’s sculpture that traveled with Judy for decades, this episode is a masterclass in how storytelling can heal generational wounds and wake up the dormant genius in all of us.
Listeners will go behind the scenes of Judy’s extraordinary life—from her multicultural upbringing in East Los Angeles to her mid-life "re-birth" as an artist after being told as a child she had no talent. She opens up about the "Jewish rage" she inherited from her ancestors and how she spent decades transmuted that energy into breathtaking art through a process of "pure intuition." Meanwhile, Caleb reflects on learning to trust his own "heart song" while navigating the modern world of algorithms. Deeply moving and intellectually rich, this conversation is a powerful reminder that while we breathe, there is hope—and that the most vital myths are the ones we create together across the kitchen table.
